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I always get a kick out of Christians who complain about violence and gore (oh, and sex) in tv and movies, but then go on to say that the Bible is absolutely child appropriate material.


Interesting enough to read: Cruelty and Violence in the Bible
*Note: Obviously this site is a bit biased. :) To counter balance that I'll share something else.

Jesus is Savior - Here's a site that's biased in the other direction.


Edit: Added some blank frames to slow it down a bit. Thanks to ~Frubban for the suggestion!

Circle brush: I can't recall where it came from - but if you know please let me know so I can credit them!
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:iconcrazyforchocobos:
crazyforchocobos Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014
This is reminding me of when my mom was watching the History Channel's "The Bible" miniseries and I came into the family room right as Samuel stabbed a guy in the gut and proceeded to rant at King Saul.

My response: "DUDE! CHILL!"

And it seems that some people I know tend to forget that David also cut off Goliath's head.
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SpetsnazKaz Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The world isn't exactly a happy-happy-joy-joy place either.
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Defying-T Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013
The Bible doesn't teach those things, just mentions them, like history books.

But actually, even though I'm a Christian, I have some rather...controversial views. I kinda think exposing kids to violence/gore, sex and evil is...not that bad an idea. I don't believe in "sheltering" or "sugar-coating". The world is evil- evil happens. Pain, horror, gore, death, rape, violence, it all happens. Let's not sugar-coat anything. Kids are gonna have to be exposed to the real world sometime. I just believe in toughening them up.

I'm the kind of dad that would probably let my kids watch gory movies, while still teaching them that these things are evil, but they do happen in the world
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, it does specifically give instructions in the OT about how to go about doing war and justice -- like what to do with a woman who has been raped in a city who didn't scream for help (stone her to death alongside her rapist), or what to do with entire cities if they do not open their gates willfully, etc. I personally don't believe it's morally acceptable to purposefully expose young children to things like rape and violence. I mean -- I was pretty sheltered as a kid, but my nephew has been watching the news since he was very little, and at age 10 he was already so jaded, he grew up too quickly and socially he's a bit of an outcast because of it. I don't know if that's a common reaction with kids who are exposed to that sort of thing so early, but that's just the experience I can share here.
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Defying-T Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2013
Hmm...wouldn't know, as we can't get into other people's minds.

I'm quite desensitized and a total social outcast. But I see my state of mind as something that could be positive, so long as I'm not deliberately aggressive or violent. And I'm not- I'm actually a pacifist. I wouldn't hurt a fly, unless had good reason to. I'm just rather indifferent to suffering. My state of mind is only "dangerous" if it is combined with the wrong vices.
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N7-Commander Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2012  Professional
Don't forget that Christians complain about violent games too.
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2012
It's rather hypocritical, but I suspect it is due to biblical ignorance. I am told 99% of the faithful never actually read the bible, and I think if they all did we'd have a bigger portion of atheists in the christian world.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's likely true. I'm not sure about the percentage rate, but I do think that there is a majority of Christians who don't actually read it.
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2012
99% is what I hear from the podcasts, Atheist Experience etc. And it sounds about right; most people do not think too hard about things like cultural beliefs or whether they are right or wrong, they just conform.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's true that most who are in that sort of environment just willfully accept. That's sort of scary, thinking about it. :/
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2012
Which is all the more reason to challenge it.
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2112yyz2112 Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2012
I just agree ENTIRELY with you here!:)
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:D
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Supyloco Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012
I was raised Christian. And let me tell you, The bible is complete bullshit. Like they never tell you what's in the bible.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It should be a requirement for all Christians to read the Bible at least once in their life before they reap any of the benefits of going to their Church or whatnot. We'd get more Atheists that way, ha!
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Supyloco Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2012
I think many Atheists make that mistake. There's a difference between worship and belief. I mean I can say that Hitler was terrible but he existed. I mean I believe there's a God. I just don't believe in this Yahweh fellow. I mean the bible is nothing more than a book of Bronze age Mythology. I mean I hear that many de-convert because Yahweh is an asshole. Which he is. But it doesn't dismiss the existence of a deity. The problem is whether there is proof of an actual creator and how far did it go.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's true that just because the Yahweh fellow is portrayed as a douche, it doesn't dismiss the possibility of the existence of a deity, however it still doesn't address the problem of there not being any measurable proof, which is why most atheists don't believe deities exist.
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Supyloco Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2012
But I'm just pointing out Christianity and how many de-convert.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah, alrighty :D
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willow1981 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I never thought of it like that :O good stamp :D
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:) Thank you
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willow1981 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You're welcome :D
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lady-warrior Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
Of course it's violent. Only you don't tell the really horrible stuff to children.

Bored? Wanna read a good story? Read the Bible. Has all the things people love to read about. :la:
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Lol, well I'm sure there are families out there who don't skimp on the violence when teaching their kids about the bible. Thank you for the comment :)
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Twilightzonegirl13 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I can agree with this, but because back then there was many wars over land and religion back then. Those acts of violence are suppose to teach us to be better Christians and people. I rather watch a good action movie with out all the sex. But hey you can't have action with out violence especially transformers :3 haha

You know what I say and so does my mother is not to let your children watch that. Like I watch cartoons and Disney channel (I mean the good shows on there),but you know what I also watch the news and crime shows. I believe in monitoring what children watch and hear at home, but you can not do that at school or out in the real world. All you can do is teach them what is right and wrong.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:nod: I agree, you gotta take a look at this sort of stuff, see what's appropriate for your kids to watch or read, and make it available or not available for them. If I were Christian, I could say with certainty that while I would hold my personal beliefs, I wouldn't be asking the kids to read the bible until they were much older and more mature, if only because the cultures back then when the book was written are so different than what kids are being raised in today. It'd probably be different for someone living in the middle east, where there are still religiously-fueled conflicts, I think.

Anyway, thank you for your comment! I appreciate you taking the time to write it. :D
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Twilightzonegirl13 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Yes! My parents had a Bible for my siblings and I and it was like over the stories of Moses, Adam and Eve, etc. I fully understood that part of the Bible but there is more to it then that. There is more lessons that are taught in there that I could not fully understand until I was much older like 13 and 14. In the Bible children are sinless until the age of 6 then they are held accountable for their sins. I would instill those lessons about behaving your best and always do the right thing before then. I wasn't saved until I was 13 because I didn't fully understand. I knew that Jesus was my Lord and Savior, but I didn't fully understand. That is what my friend's uncle is having his daughter do she is 8 or 9 years old and she is getting baptized. I am not getting baptized till this summer and I am almost 18 because I am more mature then I was at 13.

No problem. :D Its fun to hear that other even though we do not have the same religious views we still have the same views about parenting.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah yeah, I totally get the whole 'not understanding til you're older' thing. I was raised Christian-ish, went to a private Christian school for a few years in elementary school, and went to sunday school a few times as well. My parents tried to raise me like that but in the end I never really understood what the whole deal was, only that my parents said some guy called Jesus/God was watching me at all times making sure I wasn't being bad - but that didn't stop me from being a little brat sometimes anyway. In the end I fell away from the religion because it just didn't fit into my life, and so I was atheist for the majority of growing up. Anyway thank you so much again for your comments, I really enjoy reading them. :)
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Twilightzonegirl13 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Yea people will not get it even when they are older, but if you do not understand it is ok. I pray that people will one day find a path to understanding, but I will not force you. Same with me! Kids will be kids. We act up as children because we are still learning what is right and what is wrong from our parents. We still do it as teens and adults we just have to learn to correct ourselves. Aw thanks and no problem. I have been enjoying having a mature conversation with another person. :D
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RenegadeSaint Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, I'm not a religious person, but this is something that bugs me. "OMG think of the children, we must ban that gorefest game/movie NOW!" but then straight away shove a Gideon Bible at a schoolkid...I don't get it.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:nod: I'm with ya on that one!
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RenegadeSaint Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, I had a Christian counsellor once when I was younger and she told me (no kidding) that listening to heavy metal, which is full of gory themes, will make me demon-possessed.LOL. The "good book" is more of a gorefest than any metal song. Even Cannibal Corpse (of whom I am not a fan, btw) probably couldn't match up.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Rofl! That's funny, I've never heard of anyone saying that metal will make someone demon-possessed before!
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RenegadeSaint Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You haven't met that many evangelicals yet. Thanks to her, I'm now afraid of church ladies, for reasons relating to them being so willing to give me crap for just existing-while-not-normal.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Lol.. I guess not! The worst I've ever gotten is the door-knockers, and one Mormon guy even stuck his foot in our door! So not as bad as being told that music will fill you with devils. Haha.
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RenegadeSaint Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, I've met some of the really bad ones. Hence my being an atheist who really, really just wants to be left alone.
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RebiValeska Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012
Like I said on some other stamp, do some research other than just copying down info from some biased website please.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I mentioned in the artist comment that I knew that the website was biased, and this being the internet, reading a website like that should be taken with a grain of salt.

I obviously wasn't going to sit around compounding every single example of these "child appropriate" reading materials, but here are a few examples, from the New International Version of the bible, referenced from BibleGateway.com, for your reading pleasure.

Rape, Incest:
Genesis 19:1 to 29, Genesis 19:30-38, Genesis 34:2, Deuteronomy 28:30, Judges 19:25, Judges 20:5, 2 Samuel 13:14, 2 Samuel 13:32

Animal Sacrifice:
Genesis 8:20, Exodus 13:15, Numbers 7:88, Deuteronomy 16:2, 2 Chronicles 29:33, Psalm 66:15, Isaiah 1:11, Malachi 1:8

Child-killing:
Exodus 13:15, 2 Kings 8:12, Esther 3:13

Jealousy:
Genesis 30:1, Genesis 37:11, Exodus 20:5, Exodus 34:14, Numbers 5:14, Numbers 5:29

Sex and Violence and Gore:
Genesis 4:8, Genesis 4:14, Genesis 4:25, Genesis 20:11, Exodus 1:16, Exodus 4:19, Numbers 22:29, Numbers 31:17, Judges 8:17, 1 Samuel 17:35

Vengeance:
Deuteronomy 19:16-19:21, Leviticus 24:21

Etc, etc.

Again, I'm not going through the whole bible. But I hope this shows that I'm not just pulling it out of my ass that the bible is full of this shit.

Thank you for taking the time to comment.
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SpeakThroughFingers Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
God killed more people than the devil, too.

and OOOH SHINY!

I like this. ^^
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That he did! And thank you! I'm glad you like it. :)
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pokeexpert Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
And Pokemon. And Harry Potter. And Dungeons and Dragons. And everything else.
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Twilightzonegirl13 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Hey I am christian and I played pokemon and collected the cards and I watch harry potter.
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pokeexpert Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
So do I :)
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Twilightzonegirl13 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Student Digital Artist
haha AWESOME! by the way your icon is actually my 2nd fave fire type haha
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pokeexpert Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Blaziken's always been my favorite pokemon. What's yours?
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Twilightzonegirl13 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Charzard. I haven't played that version of the game in a long time. I just restarted my Diamond version and have been playing it like crazy
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Lol yeah. I knew someone whose mom wouldn't let her watch Pokemon because they "evolved". Same thing for reading Harry Potter - witchcraft! AHMAHGAWD
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pokeexpert Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah. PIKACHU EVOLVES INTO RAICHU WITH A THUNDERSTONE WOOOO SO DEMONIC :iconwooooplz:
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Frubban Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012
Blasphemy! :ohnoes:
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Rofl XD :iconfblikeplz:
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