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"I see a lot of people saying "birth control is not just for pregnancy!!" as if its use as a contraceptive is somehow a quality it needs to redeem. But it's not. Pregnancy prevention is a completely valid use of birth control, yes, even "free" birth control. Unplanned pregnancy is a terrible thing to go through, physically, mentally, and financially. It is a medical condition and birth control is a preventative medication, just like vaccines." - ~Dametora

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:icon0rang3app3al:
0rang3App3aL Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2014
:iconfacepalmplz: ...are people seriously using birth control meds as drugs now?
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midna-deity Featured By Owner May 27, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Can I use this on my page?
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Dametora Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2013
What's hilarious about these people (yeah I'm coming back to this) is that they probably ALL HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE ALREADY and by default ALREADY PAY FOR THESE SIN PILLS because that's how fucking health insurance WORKS. It covers HEALTHCARE.
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JohnTanner Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2013  Professional General Artist
"I see a lot of people saying "birth control is not just for pregnancy!!" as if its use as a contraceptive is somehow a quality it needs to redeem. But it's not. Pregnancy prevention is a completely valid use of birth control, yes, even "free" birth control. Unplanned pregnancy is a terrible thing to go through, physically, mentally, and financially. It is a medical condition and birth control is a preventative medication, just like vaccines." says some faggot libtard from the gay burrow, shekel producing, brainwashed website  deviantart.
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SilentRisingSun Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Hey, be nice!
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:iconjohntanner:
JohnTanner Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2013  Professional General Artist
sorry.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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AClockworkKitten Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I agree, hey it could make a world of difference for some people's lives.  For instance, there's no way I'd be able to handle being pregnant.  I need to take medicine for other conditions I have and I couldn't take them while pregnant or the baby would have serious problems.  Plus, I need those meds and I'd be a wreck without them.

But like Dame said in her post, maternal and neonatal care are shit.  And women who choose to be mothers need that.  Shouldn't we support covering those things too?

What are the odds of dying by childbirth or pregnancy anyway?
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:iconmike-the-cat:
Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
bound4life.com/blog/2011/08/01…

Any wonder why I don't want to pay for them?
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Dametora Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2013
I'm laughing at everyone who bitches about pregnancy "being a natural bodily function".

CANCER IS A NATURAL BODILY FUNCTION. You literally produce cancerous cells naturally.
In fact, all diseases and disorders are fucking natural. They weren't made in a lab. They came about naturally, they reproduce and replicate naturally, they alter the body... NATURALLY. MEDICAL CONDITIONS ARE NOT UNNATURAL. THIS IS NOT HOW WE DEFINE MEDICAL CONDITIONS.

And so many people who don't fucking understand how pregnancy works. You can literally class it as a temporary disability. IT FUCKING HURTS, IT IS FUCKING DEBILITATING, IT IS FUCKING AWFUL. I'm especially appalled at all the MEN here who are bitching about how pregnancy and childbirth "can't be that bad". You people know absolute zero about this shit and yet you're talking?? Stop talking.
Studies have cited unplanned pregnancy as a majorly deteriorating condition - it makes you significantly more susceptible to poverty, disease, abuse, death, and mental illness. Preventing pregnancy is a GOOD THING. Free contraceptives improves overall health of the population, and saves more money in the longterm (because guess what? unplanned pregnancies results in children who need fed and clothed and taken care of!! they take away from taxes and take away from spending money for the parents!! which puts less money in the economy!!). These are real facts.
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Zuorai Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2015
oh my gosh you are my hero thank you
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:iconlegendofspyroxcynder:
Uh, why there's only one reply to you that agrees with you?

I completely agree with you. Pregnancy can be far worse than abortion by miles.
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Kezzi-Rose Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:clap: Thank you!
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SiogaAgusArrachtaigh Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2013
I'm kind of "eh" on the issue. I support it being covered in health care for ACTUAL medical reasons, but I don't really see pregnancy as a health issue unless the woman can die or have severe(And I mean SEVERE, not the normal amount of discomfort that usually comes with pregnancy) health complications if she gets pregnant. Otherwise, to me it's like saying a regular, healthy period is a medical condition. I dunno, I've just never considered normal bodily functions to be health issues. :XD:
And because I was seeing this argument on here, depending on the form of birth control you use, $20 IS kind of pricey. In the case of pills I suppose it's not so unreasonable, but condoms? Pfffft, it's just a box of rubbers, hardly worth $20. :XD: And one also has to consider the fact that the economy isn't all that great still and a lot of average people can't afford the stuff they were able to before. INCLUDING $20 contraceptives.
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Libberachi Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2013   Digital Artist
At least you're not batshit crazy about it. XD Thank you for that. We all appreciate it, I'm pretty sure. :heart:
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:iconaclockworkkitten:
AClockworkKitten Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Now I feel awful about how batshit I used to be about, well, everything.
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SiogaAgusArrachtaigh Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2013
Yeah, I don't think it's ever good to be batshit crazy about anything. People are a lot less likely to listen to you that way, I'm sure.
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LolitheLeopard Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
A brief summary of everything mike the cat has ever said. :iconcryingbabyplz:
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Riza-Izumi Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2013
Women having their birth control covered so they don't have to get the abortion he's so against? BAWWWWWWWW
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Limnoria Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2013
:rofl:  Truer words...
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:iconlibberachi:
Libberachi Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2013   Digital Artist
AGREED.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Lol!
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Master-of-the-Boot Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Mike the Cat, please fuck off and die. We're all aware that you totally lack compassion and hate women. Come up with a new song and dance. 

Everybody else, ignore Mike, he knoweth nothing. 
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Libberachi Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2013   Digital Artist
Actually, I found this to be hilariously appropriate. XD He should be lucky this is *8manderz8's deviation and not mine. It might be slightly out of line, but honestly? Telling someone to fuck off and die isn't the same thing as saying, "IMMA HUNT YOU DOWN AND KILL J00!" There's a difference between a death threat and wishful thinking. XD
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Don't think it's necessary to tell someone to go die, just for the record, so let's not do that in the future. :)
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Bootie made a borderline death threat.

I feel so warm and fuzzy inside.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's completely unacceptable, I'm sorry that was said about you. They have apologized below, if that helps any.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nope, I found it rather amusing.  I've always giggled at people sending me borderline death threats.
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:iconmaster-of-the-boot:
Master-of-the-Boot Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Okay sorry, I was out of line. 

Apologies to you and mike
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:iconmike-the-cat:
Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I support people paying for it themselves.

If $20 is too costly for you, you must be the most entitled prick ever.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Typo: $20 a month
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Sotkettu Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Is birth control really that expensive ($20/month) at your country (United States)? If it is then I completely understand why there is so much pregnant teenagers... I live in Finland and here birth control pills are approximately 13,5 $ (10 €)/month and many foreign people think that it is really expensive.
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AClockworkKitten Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Finland definitely has the right idea.
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Libberachi Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2013   Digital Artist
Actually, generic Yaz is like, $80 a month or something here. :< I don't know where he's getting the $20 a month thing from. Probably where he's getting most of the crap he's saying: His ass. If it was only $20 a month, way more people would be able to afford it. >.>

As for me, I HAVE to be on it to keep my tumors from growing back, and to keep my other PMDD related problems (heavy bleeding, endometriosis, massive mood swings, like we're talking RAGE and suicidal thoughts, etc.) at bay. I don't even take the stupid little placebo pills, I just start a new pack when I get to those. >.>;; Otherwise, the problems start pretty quickly... Blah.
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KrisCynical Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Old comment, but I was on Yaz several years ago and it fucked me UP. :x It failed for a friend of mine, too, and then made her miscarry. I'm glad that it works for you, but I've heard a lot of horrendous stories! Mine is LoEstrin which is about $75/mo without insurance.
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AClockworkKitten Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2013  Student Digital Artist
www.plannedparenthood.org/heal…

Says here it's $15-50 a month. Guess that's only with Planned Parenthood.
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SpeakThroughFingers Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh wow, it is? I'm on that and it's covered for me (Canada!) so I never noticed the price.

I need it too, for somewhat similar reasons. The hormones help with my depression and if I don't skip the placebo pills and get a new pack I get really moody and suicidal too. What you would have to go through without it is horrible. :(
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Sotkettu Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you for the information! That is really expensive! I think that birth control should be cheap in every country. My birth control NuvaRing costs here in Finland 15 € (20 US Dollars) every month and many Finnish people think that it is too expensive. it is interesting to know that in the United States the birth control is much more expensive - I can't complain anymore about the Finnish prices!
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Libberachi Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2013   Digital Artist
You are quite welcome to complain as you see fit, as far as I'm concerned! It SHOULD be inexpensive, period. Yaz is a tiny bit different from some other contraceptives, but that very difference is why it's so infuriating that it's so expensive. :/ I take it for health reasons, but it's nice to know it does work as a contraceptive in our crazy, ass-backwards, pro-rape society. :/
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Holy shit.  Holy fucking shit.

Did you just say that $20 a month is expensive enough to justify robbing the taxpayer for it instead of letting people pay for it themselves?

I guess foreign people are entitled cheapskates.  Just...fuck.
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Sotkettu Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't understand your comment... Is birth control free at somewhere? :confused:

I think people should pay for the birth control. But it is in some countries very expensive (like in your country it is really expensive if it really is 20 dollars every month) so it should be much cheaper.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Birth control isn't fucking gasoline.  You don't need it all the time, and plenty of people go without it.  Do you honestly have that much sex to the point where you need to buy it that much?

Just..what.  How the everloving hell is $20 a month too expensive?
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KrisCynical Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Oh, look, another young male expressing righteously angry opinions about something he knows absolutely nothing about and doesn't understand in the slightest. Why should that affect anything, after all? :roll:

Given how old this comment is I'd hope that you actually learned the simplest bare bones basics of how birth control pills work, but given the nature of all of your comments on this deviation, I sadly doubt it. Males who sound like you are rarely interested in actual medical facts, especially if said facts make your statements outlandishly wrong. It's more convenient to just go by what you're told instead, and in this case it sounds like you got your "how birth control works" nonsense from the likes of Rush Limbaugh since he clearly has absolutely no clue as to how it does work. :unimpressed:


"...plenty of people go without it."

Plenty? Nearly 80% of reproductive-aged women in the US are on some form of hormonal birth control, hun, so that would be a "no". More like "plenty of people need it/use it."

"You don't need it all the time..."

Yes, you do "need it all the time." Every day, actually, within roughly an hour of the previous day's dose. Birth control pills are a steadily increasing amount of hormones over the course of a month which regulates all of that "female stuff" you know nothing about, including the treatment of medical conditions in conjunction with preventing pregnancy. Missing more than one dose or taking them out of order messes you up really bad, so the pack is clearly labeled as to which pill is taken on what day in what week. It's a medication for women just like any other prescription.

"Do you honestly have that much sex to the point where you need to buy it that much?"

The pill doesn't work like a freaking condom and it's laughable to claim it does. It doesn't matter if you're sexually active at all, it still has to be taken every single day without fail for both medication purposes as well as pregnancy prevention.

I wish my birth control was $20 a month without insurance, because then my copay for it would be just ten bucks. But no, the type I have to take for my body composition is almost two hundred dollars a month without insurance. VERY few types of birth control pills are only $20/mo.

My tax dollars are spent on plenty of stuff that I don't like, but that's what you get when you live in a first world country. Tough shit. Go live in a third world country without all of the luxuries you have here in the US that are paid for with tax dollars, like police/fire, 911, paved roads, and organizations that keep your ass safe from poisoned foods and toxic medications. There will be a hell of a lot more abortions there, too, since birth control is a hundred times harder to get than it is here (and given how ridiculously difficult it can be to get it HERE in the US because of ignorance like what you've showcased, it's just about impossible for the third world poor... not that you'd care, apparently). Additionally, if you have health insurance then your premiums pay for the birth control of every woman who has health insurance with the same company.

All in all, if you're going to be that self-righteously sexist and hateful about something, would it kill you to have at least a BASIC understanding of how that something works? Because good Lord, really? :facepalm:
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It's not really about sex every day. With things like the pill, you have to take a pill every day at the same time in order for it to be effective -- and even then it takes a few days for it to get into your system properly so it can do its job.  It's just not something that someone can take right before sex and expect it to work.  :) 

And regarding $20 a month being too expensive -- not everybody is as well off as you or I may be.  The working poor are just barely scraping by as it is.  Why deny them the ability to prevent unplanned pregnancies (and potentially abortions??) solely because they are unable to afford birth control like others can? 
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Birth control is a luxury item.  You can easily go without it.  The less my taxes are involved in it, the less I will complain.
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Sotkettu Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If people like to have sex every day then they need birth control every day. It is also good to use the birth control also in those days when you don't have sex. Your gynecologist can explain it to you better why regular use of birth control pills is better than random use of birth control pills. I am terrible at explaining how hormones work in English.
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sex every day.....


Jesus Christ.  That's just...what.
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SpeakThroughFingers Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm American and I think it's expensive. Birth control is medication- why shouldn't it be covered?
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DarkRiderDLMC Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013
Well, just to play Devil's Advocate, because sex isn't a need, it's a want.

If I can't afford to protect my partner from STD's and/or pregnancy, I'll just do without sexual amusement until I can.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
My argument with that would be that birth control is not only having to do with sex, though. It's used for a great many other things, such as treating and preventing polycystic ovaries, severe menstrual cramping, endometriosis, moderate to severe acne, excessively heavy menstrual periods, and amenorrhea (lack of periods from various medical causes). 
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