"I see a lot of people saying "birth control is not just for pregnancy!!" as if its use as a contraceptive is somehow a quality it needs to redeem. But it's not. Pregnancy prevention is a completely valid use of birth control, yes, even "free" birth control. Unplanned pregnancy is a terrible thing to go through, physically, mentally, and financially. It is a medical condition and birth control is a preventative medication, just like vaccines." - ~Dametora
What's hilarious about these people (yeah I'm coming back to this) is that they probably ALL HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE ALREADY and by default ALREADY PAY FOR THESE SIN PILLS because that's how fucking health insurance WORKS. It covers HEALTHCARE.
JohnTannerFeatured By OwnerNov 20, 2013Professional General Artist
"I see a lot of people saying "birth control is not just for pregnancy!!" as if its use as a contraceptive is somehow a quality it needs to redeem. But it's not. Pregnancy prevention is a completely valid use of birth control, yes, even "free" birth control. Unplanned pregnancy is a terrible thing to go through, physically, mentally, and financially. It is a medical condition and birth control is a preventative medication, just like vaccines." says some faggot libtard from the gay burrow, shekel producing, brainwashed website deviantart.
I agree, hey it could make a world of difference for some people's lives. For instance, there's no way I'd be able to handle being pregnant. I need to take medicine for other conditions I have and I couldn't take them while pregnant or the baby would have serious problems. Plus, I need those meds and I'd be a wreck without them.
But like Dame said in her post, maternal and neonatal care are shit. And women who choose to be mothers need that. Shouldn't we support covering those things too?
What are the odds of dying by childbirth or pregnancy anyway?
I'm laughing at everyone who bitches about pregnancy "being a natural bodily function".
CANCER IS A NATURAL BODILY FUNCTION. You literally produce cancerous cells naturally. In fact, all diseases and disorders are fucking natural. They weren't made in a lab. They came about naturally, they reproduce and replicate naturally, they alter the body... NATURALLY. MEDICAL CONDITIONS ARE NOT UNNATURAL. THIS IS NOT HOW WE DEFINE MEDICAL CONDITIONS.
And so many people who don't fucking understand how pregnancy works. You can literally class it as a temporary disability. IT FUCKING HURTS, IT IS FUCKING DEBILITATING, IT IS FUCKING AWFUL. I'm especially appalled at all the MEN here who are bitching about how pregnancy and childbirth "can't be that bad". You people know absolute zero about this shit and yet you're talking?? Stop talking. Studies have cited unplanned pregnancy as a majorly deteriorating condition - it makes you significantly more susceptible to poverty, disease, abuse, death, and mental illness. Preventing pregnancy is a GOOD THING. Free contraceptives improves overall health of the population, and saves more money in the longterm (because guess what? unplanned pregnancies results in children who need fed and clothed and taken care of!! they take away from taxes and take away from spending money for the parents!! which puts less money in the economy!!). These are real facts.
I'm kind of "eh" on the issue. I support it being covered in health care for ACTUAL medical reasons, but I don't really see pregnancy as a health issue unless the woman can die or have severe(And I mean SEVERE, not the normal amount of discomfort that usually comes with pregnancy) health complications if she gets pregnant. Otherwise, to me it's like saying a regular, healthy period is a medical condition. I dunno, I've just never considered normal bodily functions to be health issues. And because I was seeing this argument on here, depending on the form of birth control you use, $20 IS kind of pricey. In the case of pills I suppose it's not so unreasonable, but condoms? Pfffft, it's just a box of rubbers, hardly worth $20. And one also has to consider the fact that the economy isn't all that great still and a lot of average people can't afford the stuff they were able to before. INCLUDING $20 contraceptives.
Actually, I found this to be hilariously appropriate. XD He should be lucky this is *8manderz8's deviation and not mine. It might be slightly out of line, but honestly? Telling someone to fuck off and die isn't the same thing as saying, "IMMA HUNT YOU DOWN AND KILL J00!" There's a difference between a death threat and wishful thinking. XD
Is birth control really that expensive ($20/month) at your country (United States)? If it is then I completely understand why there is so much pregnant teenagers... I live in Finland and here birth control pills are approximately 13,5 $ (10 €)/month and many foreign people think that it is really expensive.
Actually, generic Yaz is like, $80 a month or something here. :< I don't know where he's getting the $20 a month thing from. Probably where he's getting most of the crap he's saying: His ass. If it was only $20 a month, way more people would be able to afford it. >.>
As for me, I HAVE to be on it to keep my tumors from growing back, and to keep my other PMDD related problems (heavy bleeding, endometriosis, massive mood swings, like we're talking RAGE and suicidal thoughts, etc.) at bay. I don't even take the stupid little placebo pills, I just start a new pack when I get to those. >.>;; Otherwise, the problems start pretty quickly... Blah.
Oh wow, it is? I'm on that and it's covered for me (Canada!) so I never noticed the price.
I need it too, for somewhat similar reasons. The hormones help with my depression and if I don't skip the placebo pills and get a new pack I get really moody and suicidal too. What you would have to go through without it is horrible.
Thank you for the information! That is really expensive! I think that birth control should be cheap in every country. My birth control NuvaRing costs here in Finland 15 € (20 US Dollars) every month and many Finnish people think that it is too expensive. it is interesting to know that in the United States the birth control is much more expensive - I can't complain anymore about the Finnish prices!
You are quite welcome to complain as you see fit, as far as I'm concerned! It SHOULD be inexpensive, period. Yaz is a tiny bit different from some other contraceptives, but that very difference is why it's so infuriating that it's so expensive. :/ I take it for health reasons, but it's nice to know it does work as a contraceptive in our crazy, ass-backwards, pro-rape society. :/
I don't understand your comment... Is birth control free at somewhere?
I think people should pay for the birth control. But it is in some countries very expensive (like in your country it is really expensive if it really is 20 dollars every month) so it should be much cheaper.
It's not really about sex every day. With things like the pill, you have to take a pill every day at the same time in order for it to be effective -- and even then it takes a few days for it to get into your system properly so it can do its job. It's just not something that someone can take right before sex and expect it to work.
And regarding $20 a month being too expensive -- not everybody is as well off as you or I may be. The working poor are just barely scraping by as it is. Why deny them the ability to prevent unplanned pregnancies (and potentially abortions??) solely because they are unable to afford birth control like others can?
If people like to have sex every day then they need birth control every day. It is also good to use the birth control also in those days when you don't have sex. Your gynecologist can explain it to you better why regular use of birth control pills is better than random use of birth control pills. I am terrible at explaining how hormones work in English.
My argument with that would be that birth control is not only having to do with sex, though. It's used for a great many other things, such as treating and preventing polycystic ovaries, severe menstrual cramping, endometriosis, moderate to severe acne, excessively heavy menstrual periods, and amenorrhea (lack of periods from various medical causes).
No, but love is a need (according to Maslow) and sex is a way to express love. Perhaps you "shouldn't" be having sex if you can't afford birth control, but dude. Not gonna happen 100% of the time. Some times you get caught up in the moment, sometimes your partner convinces you they'll pull out and it'll all be good- whatever. It's going to happen. People are going to have sex. And either you pay into insurance that covers birth control for others, or you pay into insurance for the burden she puts on the healthcare system and in taxes when the mom can't afford the kid and needs government assistance or in taxes when the kid is in foster care.
" Not gonna happen 100% of the time.' Or even 10% of the time
"And either you pay into insurance that covers birth control for others, or you pay into insurance for the burden she puts on the healthcare system and in taxes when the mom can't afford the kid and needs government assistance or in taxes when the kid is in foster care."
For now. But as more money gets tossed at the various problems created by lack of self control and the taxpayers get squeezed for more and more money, the political pendulum swings back the other way.
Usually, way further than it should, damaging the safety net for people who don't abuse it as well as for those who do. I am not for providing ED medications for men, either, for basically the same reason. Moderating demands to keep everyone somewhat happy and no one overjoyed seems better than demanding enough to force a backlash.
I live in Wisconsin where a not terribly honest, very unkind man was elected as Governor and then won a recall election with a wider margin because even in such a progressive state, the taxpayers were angry.
Now he's decimating the safety net, bringing in mining operations, etc. after kicking the state employees unions (whose greed and collusion with Dem party politicians got him elected) almost to death. We'll probably dump him when he runs for a second term, but it won't take much for the population to elect another like him.