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Stamp: I refuse. by 8manderz8 Stamp: I refuse. by 8manderz8
Before you start whining and/or reporting my stamp(s) as offensive to your sensitive little head -

I do not believe that it would be morally acceptable for me (me, myself, personally) to raise whatever children I do end up having to be religious in any way. I was not raised 'forced' to believe -- slightly suggested was more like it -- and I think I turned out just fine.

Now, that's not to say I'm not going to expose my children to the many different religions out there. Religions are very interesting things. I think they're worth having a look at. I would like to show them these different faiths, while at the same time making sure they know that people all over the world believe many different things, and that while these things are interesting and fun to think and talk about, they cannot all be true.

When my kids get to an age where they can decide for themselves what they want to believe, then I'll go on from there. If the end up Christian,Hindu, Pagan, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist... then that's their decision, and I will want them to know that I support them no matter what.

So don't think that I'm an evil atheist who is going to force my children to NOT believe, just don't think that I'm going to force them TO believe anything supernatural in particular, either.

As a side note - While I was taking a shower today I had a fun little idea - Science Sunday School! There really aren't any Sunday School options for... well. Atheists. But it'd be really neat to see someone put together a Sunday School program for children interested in science and stuff -- regardless of faith. How awesome would that be?

I should also add that NO. I am not trying to make science into a religion. I can see how my previous wording could have been mistaken by someone not really paying attention the the whole paragraph. That's okay, I'm used to people taking quotes out of context and trying to use them to justify silliness.

Science is obviously not a religion. Sunday School, as I experienced it, was mostly about creating community and friends, while still learning and enjoying something that we had a common interest in -- in that case, yes, it was God. But the difference here is that I do not worship science, and that accepting children of other faiths into whatever science club would come would NOT be about religious experience. You can enjoy science while still being of X, Y, and Z faith.

The point of said school would be to encourage an interest in science - something that America desperately will need of its youth if it wants to continue to compete in the world economy in the future. That's the way I see it.

Additionally - I could call it a "Sunday Science Club," but you know what? Nah. I'm going to stick with School. Because Christianity does not have a monopoly on Sunday activities, they do not own the words "Sunday" or "School," and you know what? S.S.S. looks way cooler than S.S.C. It even sounds more bad-ass, like a snake or something.

You know what, I'm totally going to go through with this when I move back to the US. And our mascot will be the snakes. I'll make billboards and post them on the sides of the roads so that everyone will be forced to look at them, too. And if your kid is too busy going to Church to attend this bad-ass super sweet Sunday Science School, then that's too bad. The rest of the Super Sweet Sunday Science School Snakes and I will be doing Science and not giving a single damn, because that's just how we roll.

SCIENCE SNAKES FO LYFE (But only the one life, because the majority of us will probably not believe in an afterlife. Although some might, but still, it's worth mentioning that there is probably no God, just to piss you off.)

Adding on some fun things for certain people:

The Jefferson Bible - Thomas Jefferson's version of the New Testament wherein he removed all sections of the four gospels which contain the Resurrection, most miracles, passages indicating that Jesus was divine, and most mentions of the supernatural.

Thomas Jefferson - one of America's founding fathers. Was a Christian in name, however held deistic views. Insisted on the separation of Church and State on several different occasions.

Deism - the belief that reason and observation of the natural world are sufficient to determine the existence of God, accompanied with the rejection of revelation and authority as a source of religious knowledge. Deism became prominent in the 17th and 18th centuries during the Age of Enlightenment among intellectuals raised as Christians who believed in one god, but found fault with organized religion and could not believe in supernatural events such as miracles, the inerrancy of scriptures, or the Trinity.

Christian Fundamentalism - a movement within Protestantism upholding a literal reading of the Bible. Fundamentalists fight against things like evolution because it contradicts their warm fuzzy feelings about God popping everything into existence as-is (despite evidence that supports the Theory of Evolution), and are viewed by many as intolerant, narrow-minded, and obscurantist.

Creationism - the religious belief that humanity, life, the Earth, and the universe are the creation of a supernatural being, usually the Abrahamic flavour of God. Despite mounds of evidence that is in support of evolution, and an enormous LACK of evidence for creationism, people still cling to this way of thinking because, because God! And Jesus! Tide goes in, tide goes out! You can't explain that!

Atheism - the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. That's it. Seriously.

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Randomrainbowz101 Featured By Owner 6 days ago  New member Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was basically dragged into Christianity when I was little, twe looked for a better church that was right for us, and we found Unitarian universalism. I won't force my kids to be uus or Christians. Ill just let them believe what they want to.
BeatlesandWebkinz Featured By Owner Edited Oct 11, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was forced to believe in god, good thing that I wanted to anyway...
I'm going to sort of make my kids believe in god since I (my own opinion) don't believe in evolution. 

I'm not going to make them go to church all of the time or anything, i'm just gonna baptize them (Hey, I was...) and teach them about god and jesus a little. Hey, maybe even vacation bible school? (I went to those.. xD) 

I probably sound like the biggest douche right now.
At least i'm not going to stop them from loving/liking who/what they like.
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speedysketch Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2014  New member Student Digital Artist
me dad does it...

totally fine bro..
darkfireth1 Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014  Student Filmographer
Religion is crazy nowadays.
Rainfire-art Featured By Owner Edited Sep 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm Christian, but I won't do that. Its their choice c:

When I get married and have kids and such, that is
DoReMiRockerr Featured By Owner Edited Sep 15, 2014  Student Digital Artist
My mom forces me to go to church every sunday, and I'm athiest. I told her and she was all like "God please forgive you". -_- She forces me to pray every night before I go to bed and now is making me go to a youth group on Wednesday nights. u_u"
ll-vitiatus-ll Featured By Owner Edited Sep 10, 2014  Student Digital Artist
just like my mama :3
never forced me, never babtized me
she let me have that choice to do or not do, when I grow up.
RaraSobak Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2014  New member
You are a good person.
EchoJellyMutt Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014
My parents are both christian, I'm atheist.
They never judged me and supported me.
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