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Stamp: In the context of Today by 8manderz8 Stamp: In the context of Today by 8manderz8
Open up the Bible to your favorite grimace-worthy passage, whether it be 2 Kings 2:23-24, Genesis 38:9-10, 2 Kings 1:9-10, or any of the other various God-created genocides and mass murders (Genesis 7:21-23, 2 Chronicles 13:15-18, Exodus 12:29, Numbers 16:41-49, 1 Samuel 15:1-9, Numbers 31:7-18, Deuteronomy 3:3-7, Deuteronomy 2:32-35, Joshua 6:20-21, etc).

Ask yourself, is X action moral? Is stoning adulterers and homosexuals and blasphemers to death moral? (Various crimes worthy of stoning) Is cutting off family solely because they don't believe in God moral? (Matthew 10:34-36) Is slaughtering the first born of every household because of the crimes of a single man moral?

If your answer was no, congratulations! You have a better sense of morality than the Bible.

My point is this, if we can look into the bible and see all these things that are off, wrong, immoral, then why is it still considered relevant in the sense of morality these days? It was a product of its time and of the minds of the men who wrote it. If we ever needed proof that morality can exist independently of religion, this would be it. In the end, the Bible is morally irrelevant in our culture today. Yep. That's pretty much it.

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Linkzilla Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014
It's so sad that Christians still defend this when it's so obvious that this is true.
But what honestly irritates me the most isn't the fact that the Bible - which is considered a guideline for morality - is morally irrelevant, but the fact that GOD - who my entire life has been held up and praised as the STANDARD for Morality - doesn't care about Morality at all...

Being a Good person, leading a good life, being a kind, giving and thoughtful of how you treat others does absolutely NOTHING to get you into Heaven. Only putting your faith in God does. See? it's not about Morality at all...It's just another way for God to glorify his Massive Ego.
So...essentially anyone can be as morally corrupt as they want, but as long as they Kiss God's Ass, they get into Heaven.

Mortality = Morality
Immortality = Amorality
'nuff said

P.S. - what I have absolutely hated about taking my World History Class this year is that, whenever me or another student was judgmental of a topic like this, we were told by the professor and other students that we cannot hold people from a different time and place to the same standards and morality that we have in the day and age. And to that I ask, "Why?"
My only guess as to why is that, people back then were less intelligent than we are now - to whit, I admit that on terms like science and technology, they were. Except that I know that people back then DID have a sense of Right and Wrong; sure people back then did not like Homosexuality because it was abnormal. BUT if they DIDN'T have a sense of right or wrong, there'd be no laws regarding murder, theft, or essentially any of the Moral Standards that we have today. I can only imagine that my classmates and Professor are in the mind-set that people back then did not know any better. But I see an interesting parallel to that.
A CHILD does not know any better, but an Adult will still hold that child to Moral Standards that they know the child knows. That is how I see the situation from the people of early civilizations who chose to believe in something like this, and deluded themselves to thinking that everything God does is right.
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FireFlyExposed Featured By Owner Edited Oct 12, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It always interests me when I come across people who try use the Bible against itself but don't actually know what the Bible is saying.
Text, without context, is a pretext ... also commonly known as a logical fallacy.
I won't touch on the Old Testament passages. There are just too many to address and you seem to feel that Matt 10:34-36 somehow reinforces violence.

Matt 10:34-36 talks of Jesus bringing a sword, a weapon which divides and severs. But if you read on in Matthew, you will read in Matt 26:52; Jesus rebukes Peter for taking up his sword against the Roman soldier and cutting off his ear (which Jesus "reattached") - "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword”. Jesus' sword was never a literal sword, it is the metaphorical sword.

Second factor is this:
John 15:18: “If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you."
Jesus warns that his followers will be hated because of their love of him (a different hatred than today that is entirely the fault of over zealous, stepping on your toes Christians). It's in this that we see the sword ... the sword is the hatred of friends and family of those who follow Christ, they will shun them for following Christ. This could be one of the greatest costs of discipleship, for love of family should not be greater than love for the Lord. This is one of the crosses they must bear - Matt 16:24 Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me."

But again - Text, without context, is a pretext ... also commonly known as a logical fallacy. If you don't know something, we live in an age of instant information ... Google is at your fingertips. There are many people out there to ask or turn to. No one is telling you to convert, just to not misrepresent information that is so easily accessible.
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MizuMegamiSama Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2014
She addressed this too: 8manderz8.deviantart.com/art/S…
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FireFlyExposed Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
She didn't say that and that still doesn't make her statements any less incorrect.
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MizuMegamiSama Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2014
:roll:
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FireFlyExposed Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Bored by FireFlyExposed You just won the argument with an emoticon
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MizuMegamiSama Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2014
I'm that awesome.
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flyingwaffles14 Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2014
As if anything is morally wrong. Right and wrong are outdated concepts.
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ToaArcan Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Well said. I find it funny how they say that homosexuality is a sin, yet the same book also says that they can't wear clothing woven from seperate kinds of cloth. And none of them abide by that rule...
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fuzz3Knavel Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Or eat pork and shellfish.

Unless you're a 7th day Adventist, then meat of all types is forbidden.
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