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Stamp: In the context of Today by 8manderz8 Stamp: In the context of Today by 8manderz8
Open up the Bible to your favorite grimace-worthy passage, whether it be 2 Kings 2:23-24, Genesis 38:9-10, 2 Kings 1:9-10, or any of the other various God-created genocides and mass murders (Genesis 7:21-23, 2 Chronicles 13:15-18, Exodus 12:29, Numbers 16:41-49, 1 Samuel 15:1-9, Numbers 31:7-18, Deuteronomy 3:3-7, Deuteronomy 2:32-35, Joshua 6:20-21, etc).

Ask yourself, is X action moral? Is stoning adulterers and homosexuals and blasphemers to death moral? (Various crimes worthy of stoning) Is cutting off family solely because they don't believe in God moral? (Matthew 10:34-36) Is slaughtering the first born of every household because of the crimes of a single man moral?

If your answer was no, congratulations! You have a better sense of morality than the Bible.

My point is this, if we can look into the bible and see all these things that are off, wrong, immoral, then why is it still considered relevant in the sense of morality these days? It was a product of its time and of the minds of the men who wrote it. If we ever needed proof that morality can exist independently of religion, this would be it. In the end, the Bible is morally irrelevant in our culture today. Yep. That's pretty much it.

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FireFlyExposed Featured By Owner Edited Oct 12, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It always interests me when I come across people who try use the Bible against itself but don't actually know what the Bible is saying.
Text, without context, is a pretext ... also commonly known as a logical fallacy.
I won't touch on the Old Testament passages. There are just too many to address and you seem to feel that Matt 10:34-36 somehow reinforces violence.

Matt 10:34-36 talks of Jesus bringing a sword, a weapon which divides and severs. But if you read on in Matthew, you will read in Matt 26:52; Jesus rebukes Peter for taking up his sword against the Roman soldier and cutting off his ear (which Jesus "reattached") - "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword”. Jesus' sword was never a literal sword, it is the metaphorical sword.

Second factor is this:
John 15:18: “If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you."
Jesus warns that his followers will be hated because of their love of him (a different hatred than today that is entirely the fault of over zealous, stepping on your toes Christians). It's in this that we see the sword ... the sword is the hatred of friends and family of those who follow Christ, they will shun them for following Christ. This could be one of the greatest costs of discipleship, for love of family should not be greater than love for the Lord. This is one of the crosses they must bear - Matt 16:24 Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me."

But again - Text, without context, is a pretext ... also commonly known as a logical fallacy. If you don't know something, we live in an age of instant information ... Google is at your fingertips. There are many people out there to ask or turn to. No one is telling you to convert, just to not misrepresent information that is so easily accessible.
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flyingwaffles14 Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2014
As if anything is morally wrong. Right and wrong are outdated concepts.
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Vorahk295 Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Well said. I find it funny how they say that homosexuality is a sin, yet the same book also says that they can't wear clothing woven from seperate kinds of cloth. And none of them abide by that rule...
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fuzz3Knavel Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Or eat pork and shellfish.

Unless you're a 7th day Adventist, then meat of all types is forbidden.
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Vorahk295 Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Yeah, that too.
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fuzz3Knavel Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yup, I really can't stand it when Christians do that.

And then they give the excuse, "Oh, it's Jewish law, not Christian!"

Well if that's Jewish law not to eat pork and shellfish and wear clothing made of a different type, then same applies to Homosexuality.
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Enemom Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Actually, homosexuality was mentioned in the New Testament, the ones Christians follow. I suggest you read Romans. 
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Vorahk295 Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Yeah.

There are probably Jewish homosexuals too.
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fuzz3Knavel Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Mmhmm. 

I had a Jewish friend who was gay.

There is also a Jewish version of Christianmingle that allows same-sex couples.


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Vorahk295 Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Good.
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