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"Religious tax exemptions cost the US $71.1 billion dollars each year. NASA's 2012 budget? 18.7 billion. You do the math."

What Religious Tax Exemptions cost Us
NASA 2012 Budget

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ghostanjo Featured By Owner May 10, 2015  Student General Artist
first of all the religious are not tax exempt, churches are,
second churches are non profit meaning what they make goes back into the community or the church they do not gain profit. science centers, art centers, charities, organizations, and some zoos do the same thing and are also non profit. If you want to tax one non profit you it is only fair to have all be tax but at the same time you are telling these places that don't make a profit to pay.
third buy taxing churches you are demanding the religious that they must pay money in order to practice their religion. from a charity prospective this is like telling those in need such as the hungry that they need to pay to get help from charity. it doesn't matterr what you believe it's not right to force this on people. there a so many things costing the US Billions and you are not complaining about those as well.
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brihanna25 Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2015
Thank god Obama shut that down!😇
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Seaxwulf Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It is ironic. The vast majority of religions got their jump-starts by analysing via rudiment the heavens and by adoring the heavenly bodies (the Sun probably being the first sanctioned Deity) and now they close themselves in their admittedly beautiful edifices to ignore the sky.

I would much rather look for the Gods up in the skies where my ancestors figured they'd be.
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InfiniteRespect Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
UGH! What NASA could do with that money! We could bring the Space Shuttles back, maybe even the Saturn V Rockets! Instead it goes to some religion!!! IT PISSES ME THE FUCK OFF!!
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:icontoaarcan:
ToaArcan Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
So, churches cost more than firing people into space on bringing them back in one piece, despite the vehicles being towers of exploding fossil fuels? Seems legit.

Maybe if Nasa got to spend that money, we'd already have a replacement for the shuttles.
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:iconmkbrony:
MKBrony Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Do your research - the space vehicles that are piloted by humans are not powered by fossil fuels. Although they are using a type of combustion engine, the fuels used are Liquid Hydrogen and Liquid Oxygen as they provide enough energy to generate the thrust required for escape velocity.
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:icontoaarcan:
ToaArcan Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I know. I was making a reference to something incredibly obscure because it sounds a bit silly.
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:iconmkbrony:
MKBrony Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
My mistake. It's rather difficult to convey sarcasm in text.
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:icontoaarcan:
ToaArcan Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Agreed.
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ScottaHemi Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
problem with the argument the 71 Billion is in potential income aka TAX, and the 18 Billion is in money given away. 

plus religious institutions do a lot of good and spend quite a lot of that money helping the poor and donating to charities and so on and so fourth. 

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:iconmike-the-cat:
Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Instead of wondering how much tax exemption costs us, how about we wonder why the 16th amendment was passed?  Or how about military spending?  Welfare system? Our government facilitating mediocrity in the healthcare system?
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kitsumekat Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013
We already have the church in our government for free.
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TheGothicWriter Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2013  Student General Artist
Can you imagine all the incredible stuff N.A.S.A. could so with a budget like that!? And what exactly is the 'religious tax' going to?
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GhostOfAnIdiot Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2013   Artist
In that case, I'll buy a house and pretend it's a "place of worship for god". That'll save me money. : D
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Vyanni-Krace-ACE Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I think finding out about our universe is much more important that whatever those religious taxes are going to.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
^This! Agreed.
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Kell0x Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Relgious tax exemptions?

I thought religion and state were SEPARATED its as if they get special treatment,
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:icon8manderz8:
8manderz8 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's what I think too. Doesn't giving them some sort of free pass sort of look like they're getting special treatment? I mean, it's not like one of the major political parties isn't already pushing Christian values anyway. :/
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012
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Do not be distracted.
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012
It's called the constitution. 1st amendment and all that; ever heard of it? We spend an equal amount of money giving welfare to illegals than we do "losing" it to tax exemptions for churches. I honestly think it's just plain stupid when people (not saying you, but people in general) think it's a good idea to lift tax exemptions on churches. If it was possible, I'd say give churches even more tax exemptions, but that's not quite how it works. You get the idea.

Besides, NASA should have been privatized a long time ago. Space travel is for the American private sector. It's time the government took its bow for the final time.
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:iconmike-the-cat:
Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for injecting sanity onto a page that had none.
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013
Besides, I'd say that what churches in general contribute to their communities MORE than makes up for whatever is "lost" to tax exemptions for churches. 
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Starlow-FTW Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013
That's my job, amigo! 

This idea about making churches pay taxes is not new- it was brought up about three decades ago in the '80's, and they were just as wrong then as they are now.  There's an order of operations with the nation's finances.  Cut the military, they say.  Make churches that already can barely afford to keep their doors open pay taxes, they say.  Damn the first amendment, they say.  But don't you dare criticize government spending like the world police policies or the overbloated welfare system, and especially not billion dollar bailouts for corporations. 

It's just insanity.  I have no words for the rubbish of it all... except for what I've already said.
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fujoshianimechick Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Normally, I agree with all your stamps, but if these people pay taxes, they will be able to have a say in government. That's not exactly separating church and state. I don't know about you, but I don't think that the church should be able to have ANY direct say in politics like this will grant it.

I think if we want to cut our debt and save money, we should start by knocking out all the stupid stuff the federal government spends our tax dollars on. [link] YEEEEEEEEP. You read all of that right.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's a fair enough reason, however we have to look at it how it is in reality - as we stand, even without requiring them to pay tax, religion still holds a very powerful sway in the government, and has for a long time. Our national motto is no longer "E pluribus unum," but "In God We Trust." One of the two major political parties clearly aligns itself with the wishes and agendas of religion. I agree that there are plenty of things that can be cut from the budget, or added to help boost our economy in time. But here's how I take it - by not making them pay the same taxes as everyone else has to, it appears that the government is 'respecting an establishment of religion' by giving them a special tax-exempt status, which is clearly against the Constitution of the United States.
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fujoshianimechick Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Exactly. So we shouldn't give them any more justification to stick their noses in where they're not wanted. I agree with you that taxing the churches WOULD give us more money, but we really can't give them any more leverage than they already have.
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Earthtalon Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Student Digital Artist
By that logic, shouldn't atheists also have no leverage in the government?
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:iconfujoshianimechick:
fujoshianimechick Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, I think CHURCH and STATE should be kept separate. Atheists have no church, so the two are unrelated. In other words, I believe government should be kept secular and atheism is secular.
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:icon8manderz8:
8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Fair enough, it's a difficult situation, with lots of good points for both sides haha.
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:iconfujoshianimechick:
fujoshianimechick Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's true. Just like any economic policies, there are good sides and bad sides to both. :)
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ZhaneAugustine Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012
lol so again let's tax the religious and then give us a vote or a larger say in the government. Not a good idea.
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:icon8manderz8:
8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that it might be beneficial to tax them in the end. By not making them pay the same taxes that everyone else as to, it appears that the government is respecting an establishment of religion by placing them in a special little shelf all to themselves.
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:iconzhaneaugustine:
ZhaneAugustine Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012
That is a very good point. Its a damned if you do, damned if you don't.

IN which case, tax planned Parenthood too.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think that those are slightly different in that PP doesn't represent any religions, but if other health providers pay taxes then I say fair enough, they should too.
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ZhaneAugustine Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012
I will grant you that.
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Roasted-Torkoals Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012
:iconthispz:

excellent point deary
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:iconzhaneaugustine:
ZhaneAugustine Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012
Another good point would be if we taxed the religious they'd have freer reign to say what goes on in government and even get more monies from the government than just the religious hospitals who take medicare patients.

Plus it would mean folks paying taxes to that would be given to the now taxed religions. while I am an orthodox, conservative Christian, I don't want that to happen.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:D thank you!
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I say if they want it, they shouldn't be trying to force their way into our laws.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Agreed!
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SpeakThroughFingers Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
And yet I've seen religious people complain about "wasting money" on NASA and shit. =.= They do some pretty useful stuff.
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Urgh, yeah. It's easy to blame the other guy when you're the ones getting the big tax breaks!
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Kotego Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Hobbyist
And many of those institutions that do have exemptions decide to play politics anyway. :roll:
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ScottaHemi Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
hard not to when ONE SPECIFIC GROUP has a stick up their butt against said institutions and their view points...

things work both ways ;) 
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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Sadly yes. Occasionally they do get investigated and sometimes will have their tax exempt status removed as far as I'm aware, but... :stare:
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RivisIndigoEmporium Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Professional General Artist
:stare:

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8manderz8 Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012
Cut the tax exemptions. Nuff said.
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ZhaneAugustine Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012
LOL then let everyone taxed get a say in what the government does. I feel its smart NOT to tax the religious, so they can not say 'no taxation without representation' and get far more governmental monies than they do with just hospitals who take medical medicaid patients.

As you do know, I am religious, but I don't believe its right for an atheist to have to pay for the churches or temples or mosques or whatever else. And if religions were taxed, that would eventually happen.
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